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0:00:00 – Intro
0:01:12 – Nora intro
0:02:08 – article – Climate limit of 1.5C close to being broken, scientists warn – https://www.theguardian.com/environme…
0:06:56 – Jim – all of the predictions that people have made so far have been wrong. Every time the world has gotten this hot, we’ve had an ice age. Every time people say that the science has been settled, they have no idea what science is. We have to build a decentralized system that can beat the military industrial complex and banks and oil interests. We can do it. We know how.
0:14:12 – Steve Ross Talbot – RPC’s mainnet is alive and kicking! Video interview – Bertand Russel 0:17:00 – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihaB8…
0:19:00 – responses Jim – Socrates – “the only true wisdom is the knowledge that we know nothing” rather than judging people on what we disagree on, let’s cooperate around the things that we do agree on.
0:22:52 – Jim – Darryl asks about his work on EIES the Electronic Information Exchange System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electro…
0:25:10 – Art Kleiner joins the call https://ia803108.us.archive.org/25/it… https://www.edge.org/memberbio/art_kl… talking about Stewart Brand
0:26:11 – Jim – Developed a Whole Earth Catalog on EIES using groupware. EIES learned like a child using participatory commands.
0:27:46 – Art describes the collaborative story he wrote with some influential colleagues. To his knowledge, it was the first time that this media was used in an interactive storytelling way.
0:29:33 – Jim – did you ever try plus adventure? In so many ways, what we are building today is what we first prototyped on EIES – rank ordering decision making, decision tools and group processes. We have to build fresh, then we will have an interactive environment, built together that we can all share using RChain.
0:31:26 – Darryl – could you say that EIES was the first DAO? Jim – no – collective intelligence experiment
0:32:32 – groups from big companies, IBM etc – would judge collective intelligence whether a group came to better decisions. 2x2x2 experiments…pairing – then put those groups together.
0:34:00 – Greg – was there a size where things would break down? Jim – we could say it was broken at 8 2 groups of 4 were better than 8
0:35:30 – Greg – did you have military engagement?
0:35:50 – Art – some government agencies but no military. I lost touch in the late 80’s early 90’s. I was at NYPT.
0:36:30 – Art – it started and continued as an academic research centre on how people would use instant messaging.
0:37:48 – The book on it: The Network Nation https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/networ…
0:37:55 – it was like email – there’s a vid of me demonstrating EIES to a Swedish reporter and I had to explain what a password was. It was simultaneously an academic base and a communications medium.
0:39:58 – 15 years later, what a very few people were doing on EIES, would then be commonplace. Things like the Well and Compuserve. When the browser was introduced in the early 90’s, I remember seeing a billboard with a URL, and I realized that what we were working on, this little odd medium, ws about to become an index to daily life.
0:41:23 – The URL is the 4th or 5th method in human history for indexing human activity, and it’s the first one not tied to a hierarchy…..URL: I choose my name, I choose my location and it travels with me. It’s the first fungible ability to create identity.
0:43:29 – Steve Ross Talbot – rarely do I find myself on calls where I am kind of gobsmacked at a whole area of computer science – rarely do I get surprised.
0:44:47 – Hermann Kahn, who was also on EIES, once was addressing a group of people and said:”I want you to know, there are only two events of any importance in human history and I am sorry to say this meeting is not one of them, the agricultural revolution and the otehr is the industrial revolution. What hthe industrial revolution reproresented was the opporrtunity for human beings to exercise choice and agency in ways that wasn’t possible before
0:45:44 – Jim – how does that compare with Alvin Toffler, (who was also on EIES) with the Third Wave? 0:45:50 – Ari – he was talking in a more narrow way…. but the big one is – ” who are you responsible to as a person”. Before the Industrial Revolution it was God or you were an outlier. ….
0:48:15 – Steve Ross Talbot – this is kind of what RChain Publishing’s role is with respect to RChain. RChain Publishing is there to manifest this notion, there is two id’s – your physical id’s and your digital id’s, and what has been lost is the control in your digital id.
0:49:33 – Jim asks Steve Ross Talbot to put in a couple of words about his background. Comp Sci degree back in the 70’s. Find myself chairing 1/3 of the WWW with Tim Berners Lee…